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WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING MAKING A 2 WEEK TRIP TO ENSENADA FROM OUR HOME IN NEW ORLEANS. WE HAVE LIVED IN PUERTO VALLARTA FOR 3 YEARS SO WE ARE KNOWLAGEABLE ABOUT DRIVING TO AND FROM THE U.S. FROM WHAT I READ WE WILL NEED A TOURIST CARD. WE WILL CROSS THE BOARDER AT TIJUANA. I HAVE SEARCHED A MAP OF THE BOARDER CROSSING AND CAN'T FIND WHERE TO STOP FOR THE CARD. CAN ANYONE DIRECT ME.

I AM GUESSING THAT HARDLY ANYONE TAKING A SHORT TRIP WITHIN THE TOURIST ZONE HAS ONE BECAUSE THERE IS NO RECORD YOUR ENTRY.

THANKS, JOHN

You can get your FMM at the border crossing, Mexico side..

The thread you posted your questions to has been dormant for 3 months.

Post moved to a thread of its own.

When will you be headed to Ensenada???

...............OOP's

Originally Posted by msypvr

I AM GUESSING THAT HARDLY ANYONE TAKING A SHORT TRIP WITHIN THE TOURIST ZONE HAS ONE BECAUSE THERE IS NO RECORD YOUR ENTRY.

THANKS, JOHN

You're allowed 72 hours in the Free Zone without papers. I can see what you're thinking and that's exactly how I would handle it. Just stay out of trouble and nobody will ask or know when your time started.

Originally Posted by DENNIS

You're allowed 72 hours in the Free Zone without papers. I can see what you're thinking and that's exactly how I would handle it. Just stay out of trouble and nobody will ask or know when your time started.

Yes but, is one ever asked where they are staying, ie, hotel where records could be checked? Just curious, seems a possibility, albiet a slim one.

Originally Posted by noproblemo

Yes but, is one ever asked where they are staying, ie, hotel where records could be checked? Just curious, seems a possibility, albiet a slim one.

They might do something like that if they caught you robbing a bank.

Nobody cares. Nobody is out there looking for latent guests. The authorities don't want to know. You don't be a bother to society and they won't bother you.
I know people who live in Ensenada and have for thirty years without papers. They have never been asked for them either.

Just don't rob banks and get caught.

Gee, Dennis. Sounds like those people you described living in Ensenada for 30 years are what one might call illegal aliens. Perhaps the state of Baja California should pass a law instructing local police to stop and question anyone who doesn't look Mexican! That would solve the problem. No?

It just seems to me that if people are going to come here or be here they should be "expected" to follow the rules here, same as Mexicans are "expected" to do up in the states, I also know of gringos here for years illegally, yet it is overlooked because they contribute to the economy here....

Originally Posted by Bajahowodd

Gee, Dennis. Sounds like those people you described living in Ensenada for 30 years are what one might call illegal aliens. Perhaps the state of Baja California should pass a law instructing local police to stop and question anyone who doesn't look Mexican! That would solve the problem. No?

Bring it on........I have my correct documents......so do my dogs

Originally Posted by Bajahowodd

Gee, Dennis. Sounds like those people you described living in Ensenada for 30 years are what one might call illegal aliens. Perhaps the state of Baja California should pass a law instructing local police to stop and question anyone who doesn't look Mexican! That would solve the problem. No?

What problem? They don't use social services and they don't work without paying taxes. They pay for their local hospital visits and don't ask the state to educate their kids.

The local police can ask them anything they want to ask and they have no civil rights to violate and when they came to Mexico, they drove through the gate instead of running through the hills across the line complaining about the heat.

So...what problem?

But illegal is illegal, no matter how it is phrased. The day may come, tho I doubt it, when Mexico will treat those driving thru their border as the US treats people coming thru their border...

It's a question of convenience, cost, risk and consequences, isn't it? Sort of like buying car insurance...against the law not to have it, risky not to have it, yet doesn't keep one from driving a car. Then there's the day when the unforseen happens....

Illegal is still illegal....and has risk. Personally I'm like Teniente...I'm papered, car's papered, dogs'papered....copies everywhere for anybody....but I'm a belt and suspenders type.

Originally Posted by dusty

It's a question of convenience, cost, risk and consequences, isn't it? Sort of like buying car insurance...against the law not to have it, risky not to have it, yet doesn't keep one from driving a car. Then there's the day when the unforseen happens....

Illegal is still illegal....and has risk. Personally I'm like Teniente...I'm papered, car's papered, dogs'papered....copies everywhere for anybody....but I'm a belt and suspenders type.

Legal here also.. Better to do it right than to risk it...

Your dogs have papers?

FM2 or did they already become citizens???

Gimme a break! The yellow lab has all her medical certifs to be here legally, the "wooly mammoth" (very laerge black labradoodle) and the cat are Mexicanos by birth. No papers on the cat....it illegally entered the garage, stayed the night, killed a mouse, ingratiated himself to the dogs and now sleeps on the bed. Ah well, I'm not into killing anything 'cept nasty insects so he's doing a job I don't want to do and, well......we know how that goes.

Originally Posted by dusty

the "wooly mammoth" (very laerge black labradoodle)

Photo, please? I've seen yellow labs and even cats, but never a labradoodle of any size or color. Nor a woolly mammoth, but I've led a sheltered life.

I think Tiger has one. They are a cross between a Lab and a Poodle and don't shed. Most of the ones I have seen look more like a poodle as I recall..

Correct! We're hijacking the thread unless we streeeetch "crossing". Story goes that they originated about 30 years ago in Australia with the goal of breeding a service dog (lab) that wouldn't be a problem for people with allergies (standard poodle). It's true they do not shed (a yellow lab is a walking blizzard of hair). How they are bred determines their characteristics, ideally they should be several generations of labradoodle with labradoodle. They are extremely human oriented, highly energetic, very smart, manipulative and a general pain in the tush.
Sort of like having a precocious 90 pound five year old kid.

Legs gave her the moniker "woolly mammoth"....it's appropriate.