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A new ally for Texas Nationalists: Mexican secessionists

Texas Nationalist Examiner | Dave Mundy
June 24, 2011 2:15 pm CT

They believe their central government is out of touch, grasps too much power and has leaned too far in the direction of pure socialism. They worry about border security, and are angry with the way the federal government is handling the issue of illegal immigration because they believe it is fostering crime and hurting them economically. Many of them openly advocate secession and independence.

What’s interesting is that they’re not from Texas. They’re not even from the United States, in fact.

“Why should they rule over me and mine, from some flowery seat in the South?,” asks C. Eduardo Salazar Mejia, one of hundreds of members of a Facebook group called “Yo también creo que el norte de México debería ser independiente” (I Believe Northern Mexico Should be Independent) which is bringing a number of different movements together under a single nationalist movement which advocates secession — from Mexico.

And they’re getting advice from a group of Texans who seek many of the same goals

“When I first heard from these folks, I was amazed,” said Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which is seeking independence for the Lone Star State through legislative means. “They were full of questions about how to get organized, how to get their message out and how to work with politicians and the news media.”

Members of the several Mexican secessionist movements seek independence for Mexico’s northern states — Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Tamualipas, Coahuila, Sonora and Baja California Norte. Like Texas, they say their nation could stand on its own economically.

“Here one more reason to free us, “ writes Rosario Velasuqez in response to a news report from Mexico City about economic development. “The central government (bleep) with those comments scare off even more companies to invest in the north...”

The ease of translation provided by online services has helped Miller and some of his group open lines of communication with their Northern Mexico counterparts.

“It is amazing how alike we are,” Miller said. “Like our group, they have all different types of beliefs. All they want is a government that will protect their borders and leave them alone.”

And, like the Texas Nationalists, the “Aridoamericanos” believe they can achieve independenc ethrough peaceful means.

“For all my Aridoamericanos undecided or unsure of the movement: do not seek war, seek secession,” reads a post in the group by Jorge Adrián Martínez Torres. “The ideal way to achieve peace will be. The movement is solid, not a vent for frustrated people. We have strong economic, cultural, and social, and we only lack the strength and political independence.”

While the TNM has been successful at making inroads with some members of the state Legislature, the Aridoamericanos have a bigger hurdle than just local politicians: the drug cartels which effectively run much of northern Mexico.

“That’s the biggest hurdle I’m hearing about from them,” Miller notes. “The last thing the cartels want is a strong new government that will enforce the law.”

As a result, many of the members of the Mexican secessionist movement use pseudonyms.

One graphic posted by “Comandante Norteno” showed they patterns of money being sent by illegal aliens in various parts of the U.S. back into Mexico — primarily to the southern and central Mexican states.

“A vivid picture of how migration affects both the south and the U.S. Arid America,” he wrote with the graphic. “We can also note that much of the population of Aridoamerica has no need to emigrate illegally to the U.S. Arid America’s economy is not reflected in illegal money they send to our land. For the skeptics ... you believe that the U.S. would not support independence from Mexico Aridoamérica?”

While many U.S. citizens have been rightfully alarmed by the “Aztlan” movement — a communist and violently racist movement primarily among college-aged illegal immigrants which wants to forcibly “reconquer” the southwestern U.S. and form a new “Aztec” nation, the Aridoamericans say they have nothing in common. The northern parts of Mexico were never under Aztec rule even before the Spanish conquest, and their descendants feel ethnically isolated from the citizens of central and southern Mexico.

The movement is reflective of unrest throughout Mexico, writes Oscar Lopez.

“That only shows the general discontent around the entire Mexican Republic. Like the Aztecs, the Mexican government (has ignored outlying states) for a long time and needs to learn that ‘you do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.’”


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Maybe the US could trade Texas for Baja. That would be a solution for Skeet The Pest anyway.

Kinda funny in that back in the era of the Gadsden purchase, it appeared as though Mexico was willing to "throw" Baja into the deal, but it never happened.

Over the past century, Baja has been the bastard stepchild of Mexico, and even today, the rules are different. Such as not needing a car permit to transit the almost thousand miles of the peninsula. And, as far as I know, they still have the "Frontera" plates for vehicles in Baja, that don't allow such vehicles free access to the mainland.

I suppose one might wonder about the permutations of Baja, such that it might become part of the US, or could become a separate state.

All said and done, Baja, with its grandeur, has always been something separate and apart from Mexico.

Originally Posted by DENNIS

Maybe the US could trade Texas for Baja. That would be a solution for Skeet The Pest anyway.