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BAHIA DE LOS ÁNGELES.- Representantes de la mayoría de las poco más de 200 familias residentes de este poblado denunciaron ante EL MEXICANO las acciones que están llevando a cabo personas ambiciosas para apropiarse de más de 180 hectáreas en donde está prácticamente asentado todo el poblado de Bahía de los Ángeles y que cuenta con una población de más de mil personas, dedicadas, en su mayoría, al turismo y a la pesca.

Personal de EL MEXICANO llevó a cabo un recorrido de dos días por el poblado, recogiendo las inquietudes de los residentes, quienes claman se haga justicia, ya que un grupo de “abogados” al servicio de intereses obscuros están sembrando el miedo entre los pobladores, para que a través de la coacción firmen un documento en donde “ceden” los derechos de sus predios que han habitado por muchos años y que para la mayoría son su único patrimonio.

Señalamientos en contra de ex funcionarios y actuales funcionarios de la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) hubo muchos, sin embargo, lo ocurrido hace casi tres semanas en las que agentes de la Policía Ministerial de Ensenada -como es el caso del jefe de grupo José Luis Mena Jaloma, quien hizo el “trabajo sucio”- llevaron a cabo levantones disfrazados de “acciones legales”, que derivaron en la privación ilegal de la libertad de dos personas a las que la juez de lo penal de San Quintín, Martha Flores Trejo, les libró la orden de aprehensión, pero una vez que estaban a punto de ser ingresados en el CERESO de Ensenada, violando así todo precepto legal y, agravando sus más elementales derechos constitucionales, siendo estos además, acusados de delitos que no cometieron y que forman parte de una “estrategia” basada en el miedo y la intimidación para que a la brevedad dejen sus predios.

Bahía de los Ángeles ha cobrado un gran interés por parte de inversionistas, así como de algunos norteamericanos adinerados y de ex funcionarios del gobierno panista que encabezó Eugenio Elorduy Walther, quienes en días pasados sembraron el terror en la zona al llevar a cabo un mega operativo, en el que los propios residentes aseguran trajeron patrullas hasta de la Policía Municipal de Tijuana, además claro está, de los ya mencionados agentes de la Policía Ministerial de Ensenada que se “sumaron” al operativo, acatando con ello órdenes de sus ex jefes.

Las familias señalan como los autores materiales de estos lamentables hechos a la señora Evangelina Agúndez (a quien la apodan con el mote de “La Yiyi”) , así como a su esposo Adrián Silvestre Gómez, entre otros quienes pretenden quedase materialmente con todo el poblado, ya que las playas aledañas son las más codiciadas por su belleza natural y en donde se tiene contemplado la construcción de una marina y un puerto para el arribo de cruceros internacionales, todo esto, con capital privado.

Esto vendría a dar un “plus” a los de por sí codiciados predios, tomando en cuenta, que con esto se vendrían en cascada fuertes inversiones, ya que además, Bahía de los Ángeles cuenta con un aeropuerto en el que aterrizan bajo reglas de vuelo visual (VFR por sus siglas en inglés) aviones ejecutivos como “Grumman Gulfstream”, “Challenger 604” y “Lear Jets”, entre otros, que sólo son poseídos por multimillonarios.

El pasado domingo 22 de septiembre se celebró una junta con los residentes en el “Campo Cangrejo” -en presencia del personal de EL MEXICANO, en el que se acordó tomar acciones legales en contra de estas personas y de quienes las ayudan.

Señalaron igualmente que el delegado municipal, Fermín Smith Guerra, es poco menos que “un cero a la izquierda” y de quien acusan -tanto a él como su familia- de haberse apoderado de la delegación por mas de 9 años y “amenazan” que con la administración municipal siguiente a Fermín lo va a sustituir su hermano Eduardo.

Uno de los residentes más molestos es Rafael López, quien aseveró que “vivimos en el paraíso por la belleza incomparable de Bahía de los Ángeles, pero a la vez estamos viviendo un infierno porque se nos quiere despojar de nuestro único patrimonio, y lo quieren hace a la mala y no nos vamos a dejar”, señaló de manera enfática en presencia del reportero y del fotógrafo de este diario y de los 50 representantes de las familias que suman la mayoría de los residentes.

LLAMADO A LAS AUTORIDADES

En ese sentido, y por este medio, están emplazando a las autoridades competentes de los tres órdenes de gobierno para que como residentes del lugar se aplique un verdadero estado de derecho y se dejen de tanta y tanta palabrería, y que se actúe en contra de quien o quienes atenten en perjuicio de los lugareños y de sus legítimos intereses, y que en el caso del presidente del comisariado del ejido “Tierra y Libertad”, de apellido Manrríquez fije una postura, ya que el ejido también forma parte de la actual y compleja problemática por la que está atravesando el poblado.

http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/inform...de-los-angeles

BAHIA DE LOS ÁNGELES.- Representatives of most of the little more than 200 families who are residents of this town complained to EL MEXICANO of the actions being taken by ambitious persons to take over ownership of more than 450 acres, which is practically the entire town of Bahía de los Ángeles, which has a population of more than 1,000 people, dedicated mainly to tourism and fishing.

Personnel for EL MEXICANO carried out a two-day inspection of the town, collecting the concerns of the residents, who demand that justice be done, as a group of "lawyers," who work for obscure interests are sowing fear among the townsfolk, such that through coercion they sign a document where the "give up" their rights to their properties which they have inhabited for many years and which for most of them is their only asset.

There were many accusations against former and current officials of the State Attorney General's office, however, what happened almost three weeks ago, where Ensenada ministerial police officers - such as the case with the chief of the group, José Luis Mena Jaloma, who did the "dirty work," carried out two kidnappings disguised as "legal actions," which ended up as the illegal arrest of two people. Martha Flores Trejo, the criminal judge in San Quintín, issued arrest warrants for them. But, as these people were about to be placed into the Ensenada penitentiary, in violation of all legal concepts and further denying their most basic constitutional rights, they were also accused of crimes which they did not commit and which is a part of a "strategy" based on fear and intimidation so that they will soon abandon their properties.

Bahía de los Ángeles has become of great interest to investors, as well as for some wealthy Americans and former PAN party officials of government headed by Eugenio Elorduy Walther, who have in past days been spreading fear in the area to carry out a mega-operation in which the rightful residents say that patrols were brought in, including municipal police from Tijuana, which were added to the ministerial police from Ensenada which were previously mentioned, and who are taking orders from their former bosses.

The famiies point out Evangelina Agúndez (who is called by the nickname “La Yiyi”), as well as her husband, Adrián Silvestre Gómez, among others who want to end up owning the town, as the material authors of these unfortunate events. The beaches are one of the better known for their natural beauty and they have planned the construction of a marina and port for the arrival of international cruise ships, all this to be done with private capital.

This will become a "plus" for the already coveted properties, taking into account that with this will come a waterfall of large investments, as additionally, Bahía de los Ángeles has a VFR only airport where aircraft owned by multi-millionaires like Gulfstreams, Challengers and Lear Jets, among others, can land.

Last Sunday, September 22, there was a meeting of the residents at Campo Congrejo, in the presence of personnel from EL MEXICANO, where they agreed to take legal actions against those people and those who help them. The also pointed out the local municipal delegate, Fermín Smith Guerra, is less than a "zero" and he is accused -- along with his
whole family -- of having taking over the delegation for more than 9 years and they threatened that with the new municipal administration, they will substitute Fermín with his brother, Eduardo.

One of the residents most bothered by the situation is Rafael López, who said that "we live in a paradise because of the incomparable beauty of Bahía de los Ángeles, but we are living in a Hell because they want to evict us from our only assets, and despoil it and we are not letting them," he said emphatically in the presence of the reporter and photographer of this newspaper, and the 50 representatives of the families who make up the majority of the residents.

A CALL TO THE AUTHORITIES

In this sense, and through this news media, they are urging the authorities from all three levels of government that the residents of the town should have a true state of justice, and to stop waffling and act against those who are trying to harm the residents and deny them their legitimate interests. In the case of the president of the commission for ejido “Tierra y Libertad,” whose name is Manrríquez, take a stand, as the ejido is also a part of the real and complex problem of which the town is suffering.

Wow, I wonder what Doc's perspective on this is?

All those rich folk wanting to build a marina must not have been there on all those windy days.

Who wants to own property in Mexico after reading this? I think I'd gladly pay rent for the rest of my life to avoid something like this happening.

On the bright side, a land grab like this should be a lot harder to do with the rise of social media and the internet. It's easy to spread the word and expose strong arm tactics.

Originally Posted by bwall

Who wants to own property in Mexico after reading this? I think I'd gladly pay rent for the rest of my life to avoid something like this happening.

On the bright side, a land grab like this should be a lot harder to do with the rise of social media and the internet. It's easy to spread the word and expose strong arm tactics.

I believe that all of the south camps are land leases, not property ownership.

Craig.....it's a FAR stretch from Ensenada, although in the Ensenada Municipality.

BOLA is about 510 KM south of Ensenada, and south and east of Catavina,

Originally Posted by Teniente

Craig.....it's a FAR stretch from Ensenada, although in the Ensenada Municipality.

BOLA is about 510 KM south of Ensenada, and south and east of Catavina,

Did anyone say otherwise? It's Baja. 50% of Baja properties have land title problems- so says Mexico, not me. How close is Punta Banda to Ensenada? It's just a news story. With the coming change from the recent elections perhaps it's a story and problem to keep our eyes on though.

Originally Posted by Woooosh

Did anyone say otherwise? It's Baja. 50% of Baja properties have land title problems- so says Mexico, not me. How close is Punta Banda to Ensenada? It's just a news story. With the coming change from the recent elections perhaps it's a story and problem to keep our eyes on though.

Your comment before the article was:

"Anyone impacted by this apparent land grab near Ensenada?"

I was pointing out to the uniformed that BOLA is nowhere "near" Ensenada

And yes, Baja does have land title problems

Originally Posted by Teniente

Your comment before the article was:

"Anyone impacted by this apparent land grab near Ensenada?"

I was pointing out to the uniformed that BOLA is nowhere "near" Ensenada

And yes, Baja does have land title problems

Yes all of Mexico has land Problems. I t never ceases to amaze me the number of so called intelligent people Delude Themselves into believing they actually own property in Baja.

Originally Posted by J.P.

Yes all of Mexico has land Problems. I t never ceases to amaze me the number of so called intelligent people Delude Themselves into believing they actually own property in Baja.

It doesn't have to be that way, but it does looks like the constitutional revision to allow direct foreign ownership is going nowhere fast. Most the problems with land titles are on ejidos.

No one will invest in Baja without a level playing field and obviously we're not here yet. Everyone "played nice" years ago when there were lines out the door to buy properties. Some people got caught without a chair to sit on when the music suddenly stopped. I still think Baja is worth a second look for investors who do their homework.

This is an interesting story... to me, this is why it is scary to invest down there... one of the Mexican 1% ers come into town with their big pesos and put together a legal action to challenge the title of your property and you need to defend yourself.... this will cost the villagers in BOLA some big bucks ... it will be interesting to see how this shakes out.... i feel bad for the villagers

Originally Posted by Churro

This is an interesting story... to me, this is why it is scary to invest down there... one of the Mexican 1% ers come into town with their big pesos and put together a legal action to challenge the title of your property and you need to defend yourself.... this will cost the villagers in BOLA some big bucks ... it will be interesting to see how this shakes out.... i feel bad for the villagers

As long as the gringo investors partner with the Mexican1%' ers they'll be fine. They may be hated by the locals but that's the way it goes down here. The "shaking out" takes a very long time and it's more a matter of who outlasts the other than who is right or wrong. The new visa income requirements make it so most retirees on Social Security alone won't qualify to live in México, let alone buy a place. There will be investors who do well, and some that won't- depends on their preparation going into a deal. Never invest more than you can walk away from, and know when it's time to walk. jmho

Originally Posted by Woooosh

The new visa income requirements make it so most retirees on Social Security alone won't qualify to live in México, let alone buy a place.

That won't stop anyone around here. The "most" of whom you refer just ignore the law and requirements.......like laws don't apply to them. They learned this from the illegals heading north.
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Originally Posted by DENNIS

That won't stop anyone around here. The "most" of whom you refer just ignore the law and requirements.......like laws don't apply to them. They learned this from the illegals heading north.
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you are likely correct. I've been told by reliable sources many Americans living in million dollars homes in Baja Sur openly admit they have never bothered to apply for their visas. I renewed my visa for two more years- but not one person has ever asked to see it. In theory it's a waste of money, but it's the law and the right thing to do. Some of us can never assimilate in that way. A value set mismatch perhaps.

Originally Posted by Woooosh

I renewed my visa for two more years- but not one person has ever asked to see it. In theory it's a waste of money, but it's the law and the right thing to do. Some of us can never assimilate in that way. A value set mismatch perhaps.

It's like insurance. Better to have it and not need it....and all that blah blah blah.

Originally Posted by Woooosh

you are likely correct. I've been told by reliable sources many Americans living in million dollars homes in Baja Sur openly admit they have never bothered to apply for their visas. I renewed my visa for two more years- but not one person has ever asked to see it. In theory it's a waste of money, but it's the law and the right thing to do. Some of us can never assimilate in that way. A value set mismatch perhaps.

I would really like to see Mexican Immigration do a sweep for Illegal foreigners, and the Hacienda do a sweep of businesses operated by foreigners. The same people who north of the border complain of immigrants who do not follow the rules decide that it is OK to flaunt the rules of another country

Originally Posted by Teniente

I would really like to see Mexican Immigration do a sweep for Illegal foreigners, and the Hacienda do a sweep of businesses operated by foreigners. The same people who north of the border complain of immigrants who do not follow the rules decide that it is OK to flaunt the rules of another country

That would be interesting. For example, although there are said to be 12,000 expats living in the Rosarito Beach area, less than 2,000 are registered with the IMS. You need to subtract the dual citizens who don't need a visa, but I would still guess your "sweep" would net a significant number of violators. I don't see a lot of gringo businesses up here, but I do know the locals in the Baja Sur fishing communities complain about what they perceive as being unfair competition.

Originally Posted by Woooosh

That would be interesting. For example, although there are said to be 12,000 expats living in the Rosarito Beach area, less than 2,000 are registered with the IMS. You need to subtract the dual citizens who don't need a visa, but I would still guess your "sweep" would net a significant number of violators. I don't see a lot of gringo businesses up here, but I do know the locals in the Baja Sur fishing communities complain about what they perceive as being unfair competition.

I believe there are plenty of gringo businesses that either do not have the proper immigration documents, are not registered with Hacienda/municipality or both..........but they sure advertise.....check out the throwaway tourist "news"papers and the Punta Banda Newsletter. I would bet more that half of the so-called "Real Estate" agents are not legal

I was in a bar south of Rosarito a couple years back... The Mexican immigration suspected that some of the girls dancing in the bar were Cuban... Mexican immigration shut the place down for the night (maybe longer) while they checked everyones papers.... I forget the name of the bar but you locals would know it for sure... It has the purple lights and the taco stand right next to it on the free road going south out of Rosarito

Originally Posted by Churro

I was in a bar south of Rosarito a couple years back... The Mexican immigration suspected that some of the girls dancing in the bar were Cuban... Mexican immigration shut the place down for the night (maybe longer) while they checked everyones papers.... I forget the name of the bar but you locals would know it for sure... It has the purple lights and the taco stand right next to it on the free road going south out of Rosarito

Somehow I don't think Cuban Strippers are a big immigration problem; they were probably being exploited anyway.

Originally Posted by Churro

I was in a bar south of Rosarito a couple years back... The Mexican immigration suspected that some of the girls dancing in the bar were Cuban... Mexican immigration shut the place down for the night (maybe longer) while they checked everyones papers.... I forget the name of the bar but you locals would know it for sure... It has the purple lights and the taco stand right next to it on the free road going south out of Rosarito

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